RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.80] [Fujino]

mos555 said:

we will have to play as a mentally retarded Alzheimer's patient Kirito, who will desperately try to pretend that he sees nothing and ignores the obvious.

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Have you ever heard that meme line, " The children yearn for the mines"?
Well, I'm sure that in due time everyone favorite Cuckito will learn to yearn for the cuck chair as much as a kid loves to play minecraft.





Jokes aside, I think that there is a good chance that if the pregnancy arc does come to pass, Asuna will end deceiving her clueless boyfriend into thinking the piglet in her believe is his. It's not even a particular unrealistic event in real life, much less so in the world of NTR where our story is taking place.

Besides, while it’s a pretty cliche development, I haven't actually seen any NTR game or doujin, where the Heroine gets pregnant, tricks her partner, and we get to see that developing in the actual story.

Sure, there are a lot of NTR content where such events happens during the ending, but if Fujino were to actually take time and allow us to play with a pregnant Asuna in the story, I would seriously consider that peak cinema.

Almost as much as Suguha being our glorious incestual queen, almost.

AlterInfernalAllius said:

Haven't we been playing that Kirito from the beginning of the game though XD?

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You know, for a long while I have been thinking that we could at any point get an entire update of Kirito relegated into a chair like his canonical coma stink, or something similar with him being bed-bound for an entire update length.

In fact, I was almost sure we would have gotten something similar at the end of the last update, with Kirito suffering even more brain damage from Liz's exploding experiment.

With the way the update ended it's a bit doubtful that the next update will develop like that, but it's still posible that Kirito won't be able to move around very much or at all when the story resumes itself next month.

Marphey said:

Oh so i should play the normal version to get author intended experiance ?

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Is Suguha the best girl?
The answer, as obvious as it is, is yes.

The Seikey translation changes the name of Kirito, Asuna, and the rest of the SAO cast. While how much that is detrimental to your enjoyment may vary from person to person, but I personally prefer the original translations even if the translation quality left things to be desired.



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Now that I have said all that, it's time for me to focus on what's important.

Suguha.

Since I began campaigning for the yanderish little sister, I have come across this sort of image quite often.



Suguha and Leafa together in the same debauchery is something that apparently is quite popular for her character, at the very least among the degenerate but important for my campaign, SAO hentai artists.

Now, for a good while I couldn't think of a single way to implement such a scenario into the game, at the very least not a good way to do so. Yet, just now when I saw that image above, I remembered the Blacked Asuna dream sequence from the update a few months ago.

It was a fairly well animated scene, and decently hot, but it wasn't very well implemented into the story.

This, on the other hand, could work perfectly with the premise of the game and the current state of affairs if Kirito were to have a wet dream like this.

He was just recently caught peaking at Suguha changing, Leafa has been calling him "onii-chan" quite often, his perverted ways grow more twisted with each choice from the players, and he has also have been unconsciously milked dry by Suguha for the last week or so.

I think that it would make perfect sense for Kirito to dream about both Suguha and Leafa, maybe in the middle of double blowjob, much like he dreamed with Liz.

It would only take a few teasing scenes from both of them, and perhaps a trigger of a random incestual AV, and I could totally see this Kirito dreaming such a thing right now.

SixDates said:

Have you ever heard that meme line, " The children yearn for the mines"?
Well, I'm sure that in due time everyone favorite Cuckito will learn to yearn for the cuck chair as much as a kid loves to play minecraft.

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Jokes aside, I think that there is a good chance that if the pregnancy arc does come to pass, Asuna will end deceiving her clueless boyfriend into thinking the piglet in her believe is his. It's not even a particular unrealistic event in real life, much less so in the world of NTR where our story is taking place.

Besides, while it’s a pretty cliche development, I haven't actually seen any NTR game or doujin, where the Heroine gets pregnant, tricks her partner, and we get to see that developing in the actual story.

Sure, there are a lot of NTR content where such events happens during the ending, but if Fujino were to actually take time and allow us to play with a pregnant Asuna in the story, I would seriously consider that peak cinema.

Almost as much as Suguha being our glorious incestual queen, almost.



You know, for a long while I have been thinking that we could at any point get an entire update of Kirito relegated into a chair like his canonical coma stink, or something similar with him being bed-bound for an entire update length.

In fact, I was almost sure we would have gotten something similar at the end of the last update, with Kirito suffering even more brain damage from Liz's exploding experiment.

With the way the update ended it's a bit doubtful that the next update will develop like that, but it's still posible that Kirito won't be able to move around very much or at all when the story resumes itself next month.



Is Suguha the best girl?
The answer, as obvious as it is, is yes.

The Seikey translation changes the name of Kirito, Asuna, and the rest of the SAO cast. While how much that is detrimental to your enjoyment may vary from person to person, but I personally prefer the original translations even if the translation quality left things to be desired.



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Now that I have said all that, it's time for me to focus on what's important.

Suguha.

Since I began campaigning for the yanderish little sister, I have come across this sort of image quite often.

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Suguha and Leafa together in the same debauchery is something that apparently is quite popular for her character, at the very least among the degenerate but important for my campaign, SAO hentai artists.

Now, for a good while I couldn't think of a single way to implement such a scenario into the game, at the very least not a good way to do so. Yet, just now when I saw that image above, I remembered the Blacked Asuna dream sequence from the update a few months ago.

It was a fairly well animated scene, and decently hot, but it wasn't very well implemented into the story.

This, on the other hand, could work perfectly with the premise of the game and the current state of affairs if Kirito were to have a wet dream like this.

He was just recently caught peaking at Suguha changing, Leafa has been calling him "onii-chan" quite often, his perverted ways grow more twisted with each choice from the players, and he has also have been unconsciously milked dry by Suguha for the last week or so.

I think that it would make perfect sense for Kirito to dream about both Suguha and Leafa, maybe in the middle of double blowjob, much like he dreamed with Liz.

It would only take a few teasing scenes from both of them, and perhaps a trigger of a random incestual AV, and I could totally see this Kirito dreaming such a thing right now.

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Kirito x Suguha x Leafa threesomes are top-tier when it comes to SAO Hentai, but incredibly rare to see for obvious reasons, though there is at least one top-tier doujin of that XD

And yeah, that would be fun to see in the game, but it's unlikely Fujino would do such a "good" dream for Kirito, unless someone specifically suggested it to him...

SixDates said:

Have you ever heard that meme line, " The children yearn for the mines"?
Well, I'm sure that in due time everyone favorite Cuckito will learn to yearn for the cuck chair as much as a kid loves to play minecraft.

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Jokes aside, I think that there is a good chance that if the pregnancy arc does come to pass, Asuna will end deceiving her clueless boyfriend into thinking the piglet in her believe is his. It's not even a particular unrealistic event in real life, much less so in the world of NTR where our story is taking place.

Besides, while it’s a pretty cliche development, I haven't actually seen any NTR game or doujin, where the Heroine gets pregnant, tricks her partner, and we get to see that developing in the actual story.

Sure, there are a lot of NTR content where such events happens during the ending, but if Fujino were to actually take time and allow us to play with a pregnant Asuna in the story, I would seriously consider that peak cinema.

Almost as much as Suguha being our glorious incestual queen, almost.



You know, for a long while I have been thinking that we could at any point get an entire update of Kirito relegated into a chair like his canonical coma stink, or something similar with him being bed-bound for an entire update length.

In fact, I was almost sure we would have gotten something similar at the end of the last update, with Kirito suffering even more brain damage from Liz's exploding experiment.

With the way the update ended it's a bit doubtful that the next update will develop like that, but it's still posible that Kirito won't be able to move around very much or at all when the story resumes itself next month.



Is Suguha the best girl?
The answer, as obvious as it is, is yes.

The Seikey translation changes the name of Kirito, Asuna, and the rest of the SAO cast. While how much that is detrimental to your enjoyment may vary from person to person, but I personally prefer the original translations even if the translation quality left things to be desired.



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Now that I have said all that, it's time for me to focus on what's important.

Suguha.

Since I began campaigning for the yanderish little sister, I have come across this sort of image quite often.

View attachment 4170467

Suguha and Leafa together in the same debauchery is something that apparently is quite popular for her character, at the very least among the degenerate but important for my campaign, SAO hentai artists.

Now, for a good while I couldn't think of a single way to implement such a scenario into the game, at the very least not a good way to do so. Yet, just now when I saw that image above, I remembered the Blacked Asuna dream sequence from the update a few months ago.

It was a fairly well animated scene, and decently hot, but it wasn't very well implemented into the story.

This, on the other hand, could work perfectly with the premise of the game and the current state of affairs if Kirito were to have a wet dream like this.

He was just recently caught peaking at Suguha changing, Leafa has been calling him "onii-chan" quite often, his perverted ways grow more twisted with each choice from the players, and he has also have been unconsciously milked dry by Suguha for the last week or so.

I think that it would make perfect sense for Kirito to dream about both Suguha and Leafa, maybe in the middle of double blowjob, much like he dreamed with Liz.

It would only take a few teasing scenes from both of them, and perhaps a trigger of a random incestual AV, and I could totally see this Kirito dreaming such a thing right now.

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Yes, there were a lot of NTR games that ended in pregnancy, but I also wonder how it will work here. Judging by the description of some perks, all events go down such a deep rabbit hole that it is no longer possible to hide it somehow.
In the cases described by Fujino, we can forget about netorare - all we will see is a hard netorase with dominance. Either we will have several updates, we will watch Kirito, tied to a chair or under some kind of paralysis spell, scream "Asuna stop, Asuna why are you doing this" "Inoda leave Asuna alone"

In order to save the NTR component of the game at some point in the plot, Fujino needs to make an early ending - Kirito finds out and breaks off the relationship. Asuna comes to Kirito's, and there's an empty apartment, and so on. Anyone who wants NTR can stop playing. Then the lovers of humiliation and NTS, dick chasity cages and the like play. I mean, so far I absolutely do not understand how Fujino will do the endings and balance with the plot and NTR scenes. The author is driving himself into a trap.

Perhaps the idea of the chair from Alicization and Kirito in a coma is very suitable for what will happen next with the plot. At least it's easy to imagine a scene where a pregnant Asuna comes to the hospital to visit Kirito and tells him how well Inoda fuck her, and Kirito has a tear running down his cheek.

I don't know if Kirito will be sick in the next update. At the end of 0.55, he took a shower on his feet and went to bed. So he seems to be more or less healthy.

Oh yes Suguha)))

kinglionheart said:

If the game is censored then they didn't come from Patreon.


Note this information came from the first version of the game so plans may have changed by now.

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oh thats sad tbh. I know im skeptical about the kirito liking stuff when he finds out asuna cheating on him, still its gonna hurt me cause i dont want this game to end like this. Kirito without knowing would be much more preferable.

mos555 said:

Yeah... I wonder how Fujino will write Kirito's behavior during all these almost open infidelities and pregnancies. Either NTS will already start there, or we will have to play as a mentally retarded Alzheimer's patient Kirito, who will desperately try to pretend that he sees nothing and ignores the obvious.
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playing as a retard is not the best, in fact, it makes no sense, it's like someone giving me a bike without wheels, as if to say "what should I do?"
Holy shit, if someone puts a main character, but holy shit, give him a purpose in the game and don't take everything away (brain, eyes, ears), for me playing with suspicious Kirito is more stimulating and substantial than playing as retarded Kirito
everyone has their own tastes

Have you noticed that, judging by the version, a little more than half of the game has passed, and many perks are still at the first or second level, and some are missing altogether. That is, logically, Fujino needs to develop Asuna's corruption in the remaining time.

Do you remember what Asuna was like in the first part and in the first half of the second part? A kind girl with a developed maternal feeling and appreciating friends (since even people like Inoda received their piece of kindness.) and studying her sexuality. All NTR was based on situations of force majeure, or on Inoda's manipulations of Asuna's kindness and responsiveness.

This was the case before version 0.55. I already wrote above that I don't like how things turned out in version 0.55. I was thinking about it, and today, because I was reminded of the description of the perks in the post above, I realized why. I think Fujino himself does not know how to turn the Asuna that was in the first part and before version 0.50 into the Asuna that he described in the perks, which swallows dicks and gives birth to children from fat schoolchildren.

And Fujino chose one of the most lame moves - he broke the formed personality inside the work to fit current and future events. Personally, in version 0.55, I was visited by the effect of the uncanny valley, as if instead of the usual Asuna, we were given an android with the appearance of Asuna. Fujino changed Asuna behavior. And he even emphasized this - before, when having sex with Kirito, Asuna had a confused expression on her face and was embarrassed that she was not getting an orgasm with Kirito, and in the new update she had an expression of pity and sometimes something like disgust. Fujino works well with facial expressions, and I think he himself decided to emphasize that this is the new Asuna.

The new Asuna even before the scene in the brothel. Pay attention to this. The scene in the brothel was just needed as an excuse. A cliched and not very successful excuse.

And now, logically, Fujino must accelerate the events of Asuna's corruption and make more scenes and situations that change the level of perks in order to already begin to adjust Asuna to what he came up with at the very beginning. And Kirito will obviously become dumb, and most likely there will be several more situations in which Asuna will see Kirito in compromising situations again in order to reduce Asuna's love for Kirito faster.

And don't forget about the other characters. As I think now all the characters will start spinning around in one way or another in order to give Asuna reasons to corrupt and stop Kirito (even if it looks stupid, Asuna's corruption is always in the first place) Many complain about Alice's events, but I thought that Fujino would use her in the same way as before - that is, create situations in which Kirito would lose Asuna's trust.

I even have an idea that the next update will start with Asuna deciding to go to Kirito's to talk, but Alice will call again and Asuna will think that Kirito has decided to cheating again or something else and will leave without saying anything. The main thing will be another reason for Asuna to fall even lower.

Don't swear - these are my thoughts in case Fujino decided not to change what he came up with in the beginning. But judging by what I see now, it seems that the maestro decided not to change anything.

mos555 said:

Have you noticed that, judging by the version, a little more than half of the game has passed, and many perks are still at the first or second level, and some are missing altogether. That is, logically, Fujino needs to develop Asuna's corruption in the remaining time.

Do you remember what Asuna was like in the first part and in the first half of the second part? A kind girl with a developed maternal feeling and appreciating friends (since even people like Inoda received their piece of kindness.) and studying her sexuality. All NTR was based on situations of force majeure, or on Inoda's manipulations of Asuna's kindness and responsiveness.

This was the case before version 0.55. I already wrote above that I don't like how things turned out in version 0.55. I was thinking about it, and today, because I was reminded of the description of the perks in the post above, I realized why. I think Fujino himself does not know how to turn the Asuna that was in the first part and before version 0.50 into the Asuna that he described in the perks, which swallows dicks and gives birth to children from fat schoolchildren.

And Fujino chose one of the most lame moves - he broke the formed personality inside the work to fit current and future events. Personally, in version 0.55, I was visited by the effect of the uncanny valley, as if instead of the usual Asuna, we were given an android with the appearance of Asuna. Fujino changed Asuna behavior. And he even emphasized this - before, when having sex with Kirito, Asuna had a confused expression on her face and was embarrassed that she was not getting an orgasm with Kirito, and in the new update she had an expression of pity and sometimes something like disgust. Fujino works well with facial expressions, and I think he himself decided to emphasize that this is the new Asuna.

The new Asuna even before the scene in the brothel. Pay attention to this. The scene in the brothel was just needed as an excuse. A cliched and not very successful excuse.

And now, logically, Fujino must accelerate the events of Asuna's corruption and make more scenes and situations that change the level of perks in order to already begin to adjust Asuna to what he came up with at the very beginning. And Kirito will obviously become dumb, and most likely there will be several more situations in which Asuna will see Kirito in compromising situations again in order to reduce Asuna's love for Kirito faster.

And don't forget about the other characters. As I think now all the characters will start spinning around in one way or another in order to give Asuna reasons to corrupt and stop Kirito (even if it looks stupid, Asuna's corruption is always in the first place) Many complain about Alice's events, but I thought that Fujino would use her in the same way as before - that is, create situations in which Kirito would lose Asuna's trust.

I even have an idea that the next update will start with Asuna deciding to go to Kirito's to talk, but Alice will call again and Asuna will think that Kirito has decided to cheating again or something else and will leave without saying anything. The main thing will be another reason for Asuna to fall even lower.

Don't swear - these are my thoughts in case Fujino decided not to change what he came up with in the beginning. But judging by what I see now, it seems that the maestro decided not to change anything.

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While I agree with you with Fujino messed up, I don't agree where Fujino went wrong. The mistake Fujino made in my opinion was he made Asuna too perfect. She may be dumb but she is not easy. Throughout the game she has kept her faith in situations where it would have broken other women in NTR stories. The most intense is the Lustful Night. No one would care if a easy woman fell so Fujino made her very strong convictions. But the problem is it lasted so long now we expect something so amazing to finally break her but nothing was ever going to be good enough to satisfy our wait.

The best example I can think of waiting too long for the fall is if you remember earlier in Part 2, Asuna actually started losing affection because of the stress from her mother. I thought that was a great moment to start distancing from Kirito and making Inoda closer to her. But no. The misunderstanding was resolved, her affection went back to max, and the actually fall happened a few updates later. I am not disappointed though. I knew as soon as Inoda told Asuna about Kirito in the brothel and her affection finally fell permanently, this was the only path. This had to happen and I am only disappointed it took this long to happen.

Guys i got a problem in part 1. Character freezes inside karaoke shop after kirito saw certain someone's mom having sex in one of the roooms is there a way to pass this ?

I don't wanna lose 3 hours of gameplay because stupid bug

EDIT: NVM i managed to fix the scene by talking to charlie from front instead of side.

Anyone knows the Ginza location?

Ok i finish the part 1 and it got me hooked. Though i wish there were more scenes from Asuna POV.

kinglionheart said:

While I agree with you with Fujino messed up, I don't agree where Fujino went wrong. The mistake Fujino made in my opinion was he made Asuna too perfect. She may be dumb but she is not easy. Throughout the game she has kept her faith in situations where it would have broken other women in NTR stories. The most intense is the Lustful Night. No one would care if a easy woman fell so Fujino made her very strong convictions. But the problem is it lasted so long now we expect something so amazing to finally break her but nothing was ever going to be good enough to satisfy our wait.

The best example I can think of waiting too long for the fall is if you remember earlier in Part 2, Asuna actually started losing affection because of the stress from her mother. I thought that was a great moment to start distancing from Kirito and making Inoda closer to her. But no. The misunderstanding was resolved, her affection went back to max, and the actually fall happened a few updates later. I am not disappointed though. I knew as soon as Inoda told Asuna about Kirito in the brothel and her affection finally fell permanently, this was the only path. This had to happen and I am only disappointed it took this long to happen.

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I'm sure, Fujino took the character of Asuna from ranobe and anime. But thinking about the last update, Fudjino realized that a character with such a character does not match the plot and narrative

Because of the canon nature of Asuna, it turns out that Fujino's main mistake was that in the second part he began to corrupt Asuna anew. He should have continued Asuna's fall after the "lustful night" from the same level. That is, sex in real life in a condom. I think in the last update, Fujino realized that without a sharp break in personality, it would not be possible to develop a character, more precisely, it will take too much time, and we got what we got.

kinglionheart said:

While I agree with you with Fujino messed up, I don't agree where Fujino went wrong. The mistake Fujino made in my opinion was he made Asuna too perfect. She may be dumb but she is not easy. Throughout the game she has kept her faith in situations where it would have broken other women in NTR stories. The most intense is the Lustful Night. No one would care if a easy woman fell so Fujino made her very strong convictions. But the problem is it lasted so long now we expect something so amazing to finally break her but nothing was ever going to be good enough to satisfy our wait.

The best example I can think of waiting too long for the fall is if you remember earlier in Part 2, Asuna actually started losing affection because of the stress from her mother. I thought that was a great moment to start distancing from Kirito and making Inoda closer to her. But no. The misunderstanding was resolved, her affection went back to max, and the actually fall happened a few updates later. I am not disappointed though. I knew as soon as Inoda told Asuna about Kirito in the brothel and her affection finally fell permanently, this was the only path. This had to happen and I am only disappointed it took this long to happen.

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I wouldn't say I knew earlier, but I did point out that you can see Inoda and Liz seeing Kirito leaving the Brothel with Klein and Alice. So I more or less argued back then that the story is probably heading in a direction to use the under city to be the main breaking point. My own disappointment would just be the scenario you mentioned for breaking Asuna. It definitely feels like a wasted moment to not use Leafa's time stop shenanigans to trick Kirito so she can take advantage of him, but also have Asuna see it happen.

In terms of being disappointed in how long it took for all of this to happen, I feel like it's a little fair length wise. Part of the problem with it taking this long is probably people wanting to see more Asuna action. But if Fujino focused more on speeding along to this breaking point then we would have seen less virtual sex between Inoda and Asuna. Like after the treehouse event, we could have had the camping event, and then speed along to the brothel moment. But personally I'm fine with all the little extra goodies inbetween especially the battle CG update.

However in favor of your statement the other stuff that could have been potentially cut is probably just Kyoka content and Alice content. Klein was probably one of the worse/bad things about the Alice content. It made Fujino play a lot of scenes from Klein's perspective, which took up time away from the main story, and ended up making the Alice plot line a little more complex than it needed to be. Like it'd be simple and amusing if only Kirito tagged along with Alice, but didn't realize she was getting corrupted while he was on his missions for her. It would accomplish the same things, but we'd probably cut a lot of unimportant content.

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I wouldn't say I knew earlier, but I did point out that you can see Inoda and Liz seeing Kirito leaving the Brothel with Klein and Alice. So I more or less argued back then that the story is probably heading in a direction to use the under city to be the main breaking point. My own disappointment would just be the scenario you mentioned for breaking Asuna. It definitely feels like a wasted moment to not use Leafa's time stop shenanigans to trick Kirito so she can take advantage of him, but also have Asuna see it happen.

In terms of being disappointed in how long it took for all of this to happen, I feel like it's a little fair length wise. Part of the problem with it taking this long is probably people wanting to see more Asuna action. But if Fujino focused more on speeding along to this breaking point then we would have seen less virtual sex between Inoda and Asuna. Like after the treehouse event, we could have had the camping event, and then speed along to the brothel moment. But personally I'm fine with all the little extra goodies inbetween especially the battle CG update.

However in favor of your statement the other stuff that could have been potentially cut is probably just Kyoka content and Alice content. Klein was probably one of the worse/bad things about the Alice content. It made Fujino play a lot of scenes from Klein's perspective, which took up time away from the main story, and ended up making the Alice plot line a little more complex than it needed to be. Like it'd be simple and amusing if only Kirito tagged along with Alice, but didn't realize she was getting corrupted while he was on his missions for her. It would accomplish the same things, but we'd probably cut a lot of unimportant content.

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Well, Kyoko can't be cut out of the plot in any way. She was originally listed in the perks and plays an important part in the narrative. She is essentially indicated as a participant in one of the intended endings. I agree about Alice, but I think Fujino will now use Alice to make Kirito lose more of Asuna's trust and love. Kirito will help Alice in the game, will meet her in real life.

mos555 said:

Well, Kyoko can't be cut out of the plot in any way. She was originally listed in the perks and plays an important part in the narrative. She is essentially indicated as a participant in one of the intended endings. I agree about Alice, but I think Fujino will now use Alice to make Kirito lose more of Asuna's trust and love. Kirito will help Alice in the game, will meet her in real life.

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It's more like Kyouko has a little too many scenes that she probably doesn't really need. Kyouko was corrupted by Inoda pretty fast, so the only pivotal moment regarding Kyouko was just Inoda making her be nicer to Asuna. Kyouko has a masturbating scene where she's sexually frustrated, a shadow blowjob scene with Inoda, and a love hotel scene. The love hotel scene is just a hot scene, but probably was put there so that people could get an Asuna scene due to Inoda's imaginations.

Other content that could be cut are some of the dreams. The most notable is the one where Asuna is being taken by street thugs. Basically there's a decent chunk of CG content that wasn't needed to develop the story. In other words, this would have sped up development time and we would have reached this point in the story earlier. Maybe 2-3 months earlier.

My personal opinion though is that Fujino probably feels like they have to deliver something every update, so if they can't deliver meaningful Asuna content, then they'll try to make up for it elsewhere. The Kyouko love hotel sequence is an example of making up Asuna content elsewhere that's not really Asuna content. One of the easier ways to solve this is to stop releasing monthly, and to release in bigger chunks. It also prevents Fujino from writing each monthly update like an episodic update. It's honestly reasonable to just have the update stop abruptly in the middle of nowhere, but Fujino likes to to deliver. This ends up meaning there's always some kind of progression episodically per update. This ends up slowing down the pace, because Fujino spends time developing a "climax" to each update.

For example it's arguable that the camping event wasn't needed at all, but by creating the camping event, it gives Fujino a climatic point where Inoda bangs Asuna in the tent. The same goes with the recent battle update in the mines. I personally really liked that update, but it's set up to also end with a "bang". This ends up ruining a lot of pacing towards reaching the important bits of the overall story that Fujino is seemingly trying to pull off.

tl;dr Fujino just needs to update in bigger chunks (which might help with cutting some content too)

mos555 said:

I'm sure, Fujino took the character of Asuna from ranobe and anime. But thinking about the last update, Fudjino realized that a character with such a character does not match the plot and narrative

Because of the canon nature of Asuna, it turns out that Fujino's main mistake was that in the second part he began to corrupt Asuna anew. He should have continued Asuna's fall after the "lustful night" from the same level. That is, sex in real life in a condom. I think in the last update, Fujino realized that without a sharp break in personality, it would not be possible to develop a character, more precisely, it will take too much time, and we got what we got.

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What character development, Fujino did not develop her character in all these updates, that's why many players felt what happened last time forced.
And that was Fujino fault he took too long between part 1 and 2 to get here, his players got used to Asuna personality in his plot but since he don't have more time to drag the plot along we got that last scene.
Like i said before the story reach a stage now where most of the NTR authors out there, don't know how to continue.
That's why Fujino come up with the council, for the plot have some foundation to continue and he have something to write about. I think this arch will be like another of Fujino's previous works "insta corruption" type.

Is there a way to view this scene unaltered? A color? I like the angle

About mistakes, this game premise never was about Netorare, this was Netorase since the beggning.
NTR is about the process of cheating and having as the end result the girl being stole, but in secrecy and the cuck unaware about it but nothing prevent him to know the truth, there's a perception of risk involved.
Now when you have any plot device in any shape or form, like we have in this game, preventing this to happen the plot will have elements of NTR, but will be about NTS or cuck fetish, because all we do as players is watch.
The problem with NTS ithere's no risk it's safe and bland, nothing will came out of it and you know the ending before start, if that sounds familiar, it's becuse Fujino did that here. That's why you have so many complaints about the "NTR" portion of this game or the lack of players choices, because NTR was just in the name but the driving force behind the script is NTS and will finish with happy cuck or oblivious cuck because of that.

Infeno2.0 said:

About mistakes, this game premise never was about Netorare, this was Netorase since the beggning.
NTR is about the process of cheating and having as the end result the girl being stole, but in secrecy and the cuck unaware about it but nothing prevent him to know the truth, there's a perception of risk involved.
Now when you have any plot device in any shape or form, like we have in this game, preventing this to happen the plot will have elements of NTR, but will be about NTS or cuck fetish, because all we do as players is watch.
The problem with NTS ithere's no risk it's safe and bland, nothing will came out of it and you know the ending before start, if that sounds familiar, it's becuse Fujino did that here. That's why you have so many complaints about the "NTR" portion of this game or the lack of players choices, because NTR was just in the name but the driving force behind the script is NTS and will finish with happy cuck or oblivious cuck because of that.

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Yeah... The future is shrouded in gloom. Even if everything we see now leads to NTS, thank God for now we are playing NTR. Perhaps Fujino will change his mind in the future, or maybe, as I wrote above, Fujino is now adjusting everything to his earliest ideas.
In general, if you read the perks, it feels like there will be 5-6 endings. Somehow it is unclear how Fujino will put so many conditions and events in the 2 endings "Happy Cuckito" and "Forgetful Cuckito" Although perhaps Fujino is just trolling us all. He told about the endings, but he keeps what actually happens a secret.

mos555 said:

Yeah... The future is shrouded in gloom. Even if everything we see now leads to NTS, thank God for now we are playing NTR. Perhaps Fujino will change his mind in the future, or maybe, as I wrote above, Fujino is now adjusting everything to his earliest ideas.
In general, if you read the perks, it feels like there will be 5-6 endings. Somehow it is unclear how Fujino will put so many conditions and events in the 2 endings "Happy Cuckito" and "Forgetful Cuckito"

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Well this is most commom now, back in the day most of the NTR games you had the game over or "move on ending" if you discover the cheating, or doing the right ones you were able to cock block the bull at some extent.
The perks list is just a old mechanic that Fujino adopted from Japanese NTR games it's just for players curiosity sake.
The difference in here was Fujino letting open in the game files that's why everybody knows, but they have no connection with the endings. All these "conditions" will happen in both endings.
The thing about NTR and NTS games is the public perception, NTR games although being hated by many they are enticing because the sense of risk, forbidden,secrecy and deceive, but these games are harder to make exactly because of that, they require good writing skills.
NTS are hated because they are lame cuck fantasy with nothing to offer, and many of them are disguised as NTR because they are easy to make and write, but the authors know if they are open about the NTS part, their games or stories will not sell as good as they wanted, because different from NTR where you're being deceived, players don't like to see themselves as willing cucks.

Infeno2.0 said:

Well this is most commom now, back in the day most of the NTR games you had the game over or "move on ending" if you discover the cheating, or doing the right ones you were able to cock block the bull at some extent.
The perks list is just a old mechanic that Fujino adopted from Japanese NTR games it's just for players curiosity sake.
The difference in here was Fujino letting open in the game files that's why everybody knows, but they have no connection with the endings. All these "conditions" will happen in both endings.
The thing about NTR and NTS games is the public perception, NTR games although being hated by many they are enticing because the sense of risk, forbidden,secrecy and deceive, but these games are harder to make exactly because of that, they require good writing skills.
NTS are hated because they are lame cuck fantasy with nothing to offer, and many of them are disguised as NTR because they are easy to make and write,but the authors know if they are open about the NTS part, their games or stories will not sell as good as they wanted, because different from NTR where you're being deceived, players don't like to see themselves as willing cucks.

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I must admit myself that i don't like Netorarse for this reason. Willing cucks are huge turn off for me it is just i odn't know not immersive ? Like i can't imagine that someone would willingly stay in relationship where their significant other cheating on them and absolutly disrespecting them it feel unreal.

What i like in netori or netorare is when the cuck has no idea that the affair is happening untill the end or even in ending when the cuck is still oblivios it feels more realistic. I really liked NTR Homestay for this reason